Running while sleep?

[macktmo]

@Nige_S

Then it almost certainly wasn't actually asleep -- especially if you issued the sleep command and then, almost immediately, Remote Triggered the macro.

I'm not sure if it wasn't actually asleep. I just click the Apple menu > Sleep. Leave it. Go outside. Trigger my wake macro remotely, and it wakes up so I can access it via AnyDesk. Like @peternlewis mentioned above, there might be different levels of sleep.

@Nige_S

Check the "Wake for network access" setting in System Settings -> Energy.

I'll check on "Wake for network access". I'm not good at network though and I thought its only for LAN.

@Nige_S

Don't! Instead, put the SwitchBot or similar on a connected keyboard and have it tap the space bar

Didn't thought of putting a SwitchBot on the Keyboard That's smart.

@Nige_S

But by far the easiest way to have a computer available for remote access whenever you need it is to not let it sleep in the first place...

I can leave the mac mini running without making it sleep. Stupid question, does the lock screen due to inactivity make my device sleep?

[Airy]

@macktmo

Stupid question, does the lock screen due to inactivity make my device sleep?

No, in fact it doesn't even stop KM macros from running or triggering.

[Nige_S]

@macktmo

I'm not sure if it wasn't actually asleep... Like @peternlewis mentioned above, there might be different levels of sleep.

Yes, that's what I meant by "actually asleep".

But there's no need to guess about these things -- in Terminal, pmset -g log will show you sleep/wake event data, with "assertions" listed towards the end. And you can dig through the unified log with the Console app.

[Seagram]

If you're using macOS Tahoe, it might be an option to call your macro via automations in the Shortcuts app. I have a shortcut in Apple Shortcuts that also works when the computer is asleep.

I have not yet tried whether this also works by calling a km macro via the Apple shortcuts.

[Airy]

@Seagram

I have a shortcut in Apple Shortcuts that also works when the computer is asleep.

Can you show us how you do that? I didn't know that was possible.

[Nige_S]

@Seagram

I have a shortcut in Apple Shortcuts that also works when the computer is asleep.

Does it run when your Mac is asleep, or is it scheduled for then but queued and run as soon as your Mac wakes up?

[Seagram]

I've done some more experiments. It only works if you call a shortcut that uses only shortcut actions. It does NOT work if you call a KM macro from shortcuts. Therefore, KM doesn't "wake up" when calling a macro from shortcuts if the computer is "sleeping."

[Airy]

@Seagram

I've done some more experiments. It only works if you call a shortcut that uses only shortcut actions.

I would love to see how that works.

[Seagram]

Use the following shortcut.
I've blacked out some things for privacy reasons.

[Airy]

That's strange, I created a similar automation shortcut and it didn't run or wake my Mac.

[Seagram]

I also have the following settings.
The text is in Dutch because I'm using a Dutch version.

[Nige_S]

@Airy

That's strange, I created a similar automation shortcut and it didn't run or wake my Mac.

Is Power Nap turned on? (System Settings -> Energy, 3rd option in @Seagram's second pic, probably 2nd option for you.)

Everything I've seen suggests Automations don't run under Power Nap, but perhaps some do depending on the actions they contain.

[Airy]

@Nige_S

Is Power Nap turned on? (System Settings -> Energy, 3rd option in @Seagram's second pic, probably 2nd option for you.)

Yes. As is his. Are you saying I should be able to get an automation to run while my Mac is sleeping?

[Seagram]

@Airy

Are you saying I should be able to get an automation to run while my Mac is sleeping?

Yes, as long as you don't use KM macros but built-in shortcut actions.

[Airy]

@Seagram

Yes, as long as you don't use KM macros but built-in shortcut actions.

Great. Any idea why it isn't working for me?

Maybe it works on laptops, but not on desktops. Just a theory.

[Seagram]

@Airy

Maybe it works on laptops, but not on desktops

I only use it on an iMac M1 (so a desktop)