thanks. I can do this for a reply to ONE comment, but this is what I mean: my statements in grey, each one ** followed by your reply in white**. It is very elegant.
I mean OutlineEdit for OSX (not IOS)
Itâs the same. Even when you have already an open edit window you can still select text from the page and click on âQuoteâ. The quoted text will be placed at cursor position.
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You can also use the usual Markdown syntax (>) to blockquote pasted text, but then the quote is not linked.
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Yes, Iâve already downloaded it from the MAS. Love the float-window feature with automatic transparency. Good alternative to Stickies. (Pity that it doesnât accept dropped files.)
I tried it and funny thing, when I click on a folder in the dock, instead of quick look, the file and corresponding app all open
very interesting. This would be ideal if I could only get - one file - quicklook - keyboard shortcut.
thanks again
No, a click on the folder in the dock doesnât invoke Quick Look. As said, you have to place the mouse over a file in the grid view and then hit the Spacebar, which is the shortcut for Quick Look.
PS:
Right-click on a folder in the Dock to adjust the display options (Fan, grid, folder, stack, etc.).
Mindmappers are basically just outliners with a more graphical visualization (at least the two from my list). So âplaying around with the displayâ is one of the main points of a mindmapper. The fact that you can configure the visual layout and move around the items without destroying or obfuscating the underlaying hierarchy adds an additional semantic layer. (Also the possibility to draw cross-connections.)
I find them very useful to get an overview of the structure or dependencies of a topic. Also giving a âmind mapâ (instead of a pure text outline) to other people has proven beneficial, since some people donât seem to understand the concept of an outline list.
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The current version of EN Mac, 6.11, has some terrible bugs which affect formatting of a paste operation. There was a huge outcry, and many of these have already been fixed in the 6.11.1 Beta (but I don't recommend using EN Betas).
So, I'm hoping that when EN Mac 6.11.1 GA (Production) is released, these and other bugs will be fixed.
Meanwhile, I'll still on Ver 6.9.2. 
I realize your copy/paste from Nisus to EN was to make use of what you have.
I like using Evernote for this function (shortcut cheat sheets), so it would be worth investing the time to get the formatting right in EN.
But if you prefer Nisus or other RTF files, then it obviously would not make sense to fool with EN Mac.
There is no doubt that NIsus, MS Word, or just about any other word processor will have more/better formatting capability than Evernote. I do all of my special/hard formatting using MS Word 2011, and then paste into EN Mac 6.9.2, which handles the paste formatting properly.
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my computer crashed yesterday as I was about to reply âthanksâ, works fine.
For me personally, graphic display is often similar to the sirens in the Odyssey. Odysseus plugs his ears with wax in order not to be seduced by the sirens who will seduce him and keep him captive.
As he sets sail, Odysseus passes Circeâs counsel on to his men. They approach the island of the lovely Sirens, and Odysseus, as instructed by Circe, plugs his menâs ears with beeswax and has them bind him to the mast of the ship. He alone hears their song flowing forth from the island, promising to reveal the future.
I have been using EN for years and have more than 5000 notes, mostly technical references.
In the past 2 years, I discovered Scrivener and just canât believe that I have not been using it for longer. Incredible extremely powerful software to manage absolutely any kind of project, from writing a book to a thesis to managing a to do list.
I only mention this because it would be too bad if you regretted down the line not having used Scrivener earlier.
I keep evernote as an archive to handle a large number of notes.
You are obviously brilliant and know what you are doing.
Intellectually, I wonder if it is good idea for someone as smart as yourself not to give Scrivener a chance. It is much more at your intellectual level than EN.
Oh, yeah, Sirens, I faced them many times. Really nasty stuff:
The siren screeches a horrific discord. A burst of sonic energy radiates from her in all directions. All creatures within the area take 1d6 sonic damage per siren HD. This ability affects a close range radius (25 ft. + 5 ft./2 HD). Targets become dazed for one round unless they succeed a Fortitude save (DC 10 + ½ her HD + her Constitution modifier).
[Image and text: D&D Wiki]
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brilliant comment!
Thanks for point this out.
I do very little long form writing, and when I do it is usually some type of tutorial or instructions for using some software. I've been doing most of this in Evernote, but for more complicated stuff I use MS Word 2011.
One of the features I really like about MS Word is tables.
Word provides a wide range of formatting options, including nested tables.
I just watched the intro video for Scrivener, and it was very impressive. If I did want to write something long form, I'd definitely consider Scrivener.
So, @ronald and @Tom, may I ask you guys this:
- Which do you prefer, Scrivener or Nisus, or something else?
- Do these provide good support for tables?
- Do they handle Markdown text? I could really use a good tool for Markdown that allows me to readily convert among Markdown, RTF, and HTML.
- Could I store a Scrivener project document in an Evernote Note?
- I do this all the time with MS Word and MS Excel
- Double-clicking on the document (attachment) in the EN Note opens it up for editing just like from a Mac folder.
- Can you compare with MS Word? Advantages/Disadvantages?
Sorry for the long list of questions. Feel free to answer as few or many as you have time for.
Thanks.
Thought maybe I'd answer one of my questions.
Here is what one Scrivener user reported in the Quora site in 2012:
In short, you shouldn't think about Scrivener as a formatting program. It does basic (RTF) formatting, but not much more than that. The idea is to create content in Scrivener (including tables) then tidy up the formatting of the final document in Word. Tables brought from Word will work to some extent, but you will lose some formatting.
Scrivener is perfect for keeping all your sub-chapters organised as you write new documents. That's what it's designed for. It's less good at working with existing documents, other than as research/raw materials, because to do that is to reverse the Scrivener workflow.
Of course that was 5 years ago. Most likely many changes have been made since then.
It's not looking good for Scrivener. Support for tables seems very limited.
Here's a more recent report (Sept 2016):
[Tables - am I missing something?](https://www.reddit.com/r/scrivener/comments/54qjsx/tables_am_i_missing_something/)
> So I am rewriting a document I wrote in the past, but this time using Scrivener. I am overjoyed at its organizational abilities, and I am still learning how to use it, so far its been very impressive.
> Except, my document uses a lot of tables. **Scrivener can create a table but the formatting limitations on them and the UI for doing so seems, well, primitive as hell**. In short order:
> * I can't choose a background colour for a cell.
> * I can't select multiple cells in some cases.
> * If I import a table from another program, it seems to get confused as to what is a solid border and what is not apparently.
> * You can't merge cells, although strangely it will display them, unless you make a change to the table.
> * You can't select by column, for instance if you want to centre all entries in that column. If you try, it selects everything in every column after the position you started in.I donât use Scrivener much, bought it mostly out of curiosity because of the interesting concept.
For longer, or complex, things I use ConTeXt, for easier things Nisus. For Markdown-based writing BBEdit or the tools listed below.
Do they handle Markdown text?
- Nisus: no.
- Scrivener: it has Markdown support, but, IMO, it is not really a Markdown editor/tool.
I could really use a good tool for Markdown that allows me to readily convert among Markdown, RTF, and HTML.
I would consider these:
- Marked 2: Markdown reader and converter, supports style sheets (CSS).
- iA Writer: Markdown editor and reader, very nice UI, document library, supports style sheets (CSS), direct export to WordPress, export to other formats, has an iOS app.
- Ulysses: Markdown editor and reader, very nice UI, document library, supports style sheets (CSS), direct export to WordPress, export to other formats, has an iOS app; it uses (by default) a non-standard MD variant but can export pure Markdown.
- Pandoc: Converter from and to Markdown, many formats and options, ideal for scripting (see my example here).
Nisus is the best editor, better than Scrivener for stand-alone documents. Advantage is that everything is configurable. Work very fast with shortcuts. I think that it's the best rated MAC word processor. That being said the Scrivener editor is quite powerful, more than enough for my daily uses. Tables are another issue.
Evernote + Scrivener : if you want to insert a link to a Scrivener project, definitely yes, If you want to view / scroll down a project within Evernote, no but the issue does not make sense because Scrivener is heavily document management oriented.
Tables; I tested a number of apps: MS Word 2011, 2016, Pages, dedicated table apps (!): My conclusion and I now exclusively use Numbers for tables. It is IMO so far above all the others.
Markdown: see Tom's comment.
I think that it could be interesting to change your questions / perspective. Please keep in mind that you are the expert and I am the fool.
I would add 2 questions to your list:
1- what is the best editor, integrated with document management . Scrivener by far the best. The editor is very good and the document management outstanding. You referred a few times to writing books or projects, but that is only one use of Scrivener . Think in terms of document management, beyond the concept of putting docs in folders, to be able to work with multiple documents at the same time, either in any one Scrivener project file or interconnected between Scrivener files. It is outstanding.
At some point in the evolution of any user, the use of word processors which edit stand alone documents become obsolete, and integrated document management becomes essential.
2- which app allows for **easy access to both easy file viewing **and immediate access to any external editor: answer: Scrivener. . At some point, you want to be able to use multiple formats and apps for documents, tables, sheets, pdf, images, markdown, etc
I created a MT-Rex Scrivener file. As you can on the left, you have a list of documents.
For tables, I just insert a numbers document which becomes integrated into the Scrivener project. I can then view the document in real time, ie scroll down the whole document (not just the first page). To edit the table, I just click on the curved arrow, and it opens in Numbers. To integrate the table into another document, I just copy and paste the table.
Same for a PDF document which I can scroll down, and edit with my personal pdf editor of choice: PDF expert.
