KM Syncing Best Practices?

I use Keyboard Maestro on three macs:

  • Monterey, v12.2/MacBookPro16,1
  • Mojave 10.14.16/Macmini6,2
  • High Sierra 10.13.6/iMac11,1445

To date I've been syncing my macros using an iCloud folder. Unfortunately I've had mixed results.

At times when using KM on one of the mac, macros will revert to old versions and the newest macros will be missing. When I encounter this issue, File>Revert Macros>Before Last Sync sometimes restores my work, but not always. This has occurred often enough that I now routinely export my most recently modified macros before leaving my macs.

I'm interested in hearing how others are managing sync? I have Dropbox, Google Drive, and OneDrive available now but would consider some other cloud platform if it was rock-solid.

EDIT: Removing this question. One would have to sync (Dropbox-wise) locally because KM must be able to navigate to the file.
For those using Dropbox, do you keep the KM sync file exclusively in the cloud or do you sync (Dropbox-wise) that file to the macOS file system?

Thanks in advance for any insight that might be shared here!

I've been syncing Keyboard Maestro with Dropbox for (I don't know how many years but a very long time). I've very rarely had any issues and when I have it's user error - not waiting for a sync to complete maybe. And when I have had an issue the recovery is simple (see below).

I've always just used the Keyboard Maestro Preferences to turn syncing on and pointed it at the Dropbox folder I want to save to. No clever setups and I have several Macs in different locations as well as my MacBook.

Dropbox has 2 good features (which I don't think are in iCloud).

  1. If there is any doubt what file should be the correct one it makes a safety copy. It calls it something with "conflicted copy" in the name. So you always have the option to simply rename the file to make it the current version. While the files have "conflicted copy" in the name Keyboard Maestro just ignores them so, they can happily sit there doing no harm.

  2. Dropbox (for me at least since I pay them) it has versions. I don't think the free Dropbox has this. But Dropbox versions have saved me from disasters.
    (EDIT - Dropbox keeps a version of every changed file so, it is possible to restore to a previous version. How long it stores the versions for is down to what kind of package you pay for - but it is at least a month. I double-checked yesterday and iCloud does not store versions.)

iCloud syncing was never as good as Dropbox in the early days (which is why I stuck with Dropbox). But now (for inbuilt Apps like Photos, Calendar, Notes, Contacts, Shortcuts, text expansion) iCloud seems very solid. I've just never switched over to using it for Keyboard Maestro.

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I used Dropbox for around a decade until switching to iCloud for "better integration" around two years ago. What a debacle that turned out to be.

I have since completely given up on iCloud Drive for syncing files since it has been a nightmare ever since I started using it. On average it would completely stop working every 6 months and I would have to sign out of iCloud on all my devices and set it up again.

This last time it broke down it stopped syncing anything at all and no longer allows me to turn on Desktop and Documents syncing. That was in November and I've been going back and forth with Apple's Engineering Department ever since December and they still can't figure out why it doesn’t work.

I switched back to Dropbox around that same and have had zero sync issues. So maybe try Dropbox because while I am what you could call an Apple fanboy, I realize that not all of their products/services are very good, and indeed in the case of iCloud Drive it's a steaming pile of dog vomit.

/rant

TL:DR: I hate iCloud Drive :laughing:

-Chris

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@Zabobon and @cdthomer, thank you very much for sharing your Keyboard Maestro syncing experience with Dropbox. I've since switched from iCloud to Dropbox and thus far the syncing seems to be more reliable.

I have a friend who is a big Dropbox user on macOS and he strongly recommended that I use Maestral, an open source third-party Dropbox client. So I did, on all three of my macs, and I must say, I'm impressed with the simplicity.

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Glad to share my thoughts!

I’ve been curious about Maestral but haven’t really looked into it before now. For you what are the advantages to using it over the official Dropbox app?

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It's probably dangerous to go with my opinion here as I have only tiptoed into the Dropbox world. Almost all I have is secondhand from my friend. He told me that the latest Dropbox client has become bloated with features; whereas Maestral has a nice simple and clean design.

I installed it a few days ago. The process was simple and I do like the way everything is organized in a macOS menubar menu.

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Haha I love the obligatory 'I don't really know what I'm talking about' disclaimer; I use it myself quite often. :laughing:

One thing I do like about Dropbox that I haven't been able to find if Maestral has is the context menu items when you right click on a file. For instance right clicking on a file gives me quite a few options, some of which I use fairly frequently. Does Maestral have this?


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Sorry @cdthomer for the delayed reply.

Trust me, I’m really ignorant here!

If the native Dropbox client is working well for you, seems like there would be no reason to change.

But if you are curious about Maestral, you might find this post by @Joel_Rendall interesting: Macros for Maestral (Lightweight Dropbox Client) - Macro Library - Keyboard Maestro Discourse