Select Menu Item no longer working properly on Sonoma

I have some shortcuts for Pro Tools which have stopped working. When I try to create them again I can no longer see a submenu on certain menu items, particularly View and Window.

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TL;DR: The developer is aware of the issue, but the problem lies with Apple, not Keyboard Maestro.


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Literally the only reason I’m not updating yet!

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Honestly, I have seen so many bug reports regarding Sonoma (here, on the LateNiteSoftware, BTT, MPU forums and elsewhere) that I’ll probably just skip it completely. :man_facepalming:t2:

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Ah man, I thought it was all going so well too. Will probably have to roll back if a fix isn't on the nearby horizon.

I have to say, while I'm totally convinced there's a bug in Sonoma's handling of menus, specifically the erroneous return of errors when there aren't any, I'm NOT totally convinced that there's not a KM problem as well. Here's why:

In Ventura, using the Select Menu action, you can select a submenu as the target in a menu hierarchy. In Sonoma, using the same Select Menu action, you can only select the final menu item (i.e. a root node) and not a submenu.

However, in Apple Mail, if you "do it by hand", i.e. manually select in Mail (by your mouse) the following:

Message > [account] > [first level submenu] > [second level submenu]

it works fine, even though the [second level submenu] is not the last menu item.

So why does manually selecting the target behave differently than writing a KM action to do the same thing? Sonoma works by explicitly selecting a specific submenu, but KM does not allow you to do this.