Confused About Global Macro Group Palette and Conflict Palettes

  1. Global macro group palette

    • Is it possible to assign hotkeys to macros in the global macro group palette?
  2. Conflict palettes

    • I use conflict palettes a lot. The downside is that I end up with a macro group containing a huge number of macros. I was wondering what forum members do to work around that problem.

Thanks in advance for your time and help

I try to ensure my macro groups are very “focussed” so I have one for Finder, one for Safari, one for Adobe Lightroom, and so on, as well as a global macro group. That way my conflict palettes show only a very limited number of options plus it means that I can use the same hot key trigger for almost all my macros, whichever app I’m currently in.

BUT...YMMV!!

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thanks for your comment. I find conflict palettes very useful, and I would like to avoid forfeiting the whole idea.

Sorry, but I don’t understand what you mean by that.

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well, I don't want to learn so many shortcuts. Just a few shortcuts and navigate by conflict palettes after that. Thanks for your comment

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I mostly use Conflict Palettes as menus.
and same as Tiffle, I keep them focused per app, helps avoid conflict with other apps, and helps muscle memory of what are the available options per app.

Other than that, check some of @appleianer posts, I've seen some cool palette-calling-a-palette workflows

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Nice to hear from you!.
First level → hot key calls up a conflict palette
What do you use at the 2dn, 3rd etc levels ?
As far as I understand you can no longer use hotkeys, apart from the first letter of the macro.

Hi @ronald, imagine the conflict palette like a folder structure in different levels (sub palettes). Here is an example Video:

I also use the same triggers (BetterTouchTool gestures in this case) by assigning the palettes to a specific app.

I also use a shortcut for palettes whose macros I want to call with the initial letter.
For the sub palette I only refer to another shortcut via an AppleScript.

2021_04_16_Support_Palette_Forum

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thanks very much. Also very nice to hear from you !
Now I understand. thanks very much

and thanks for taking the time to make the videos !! @hello has never made a video for me !

This is not fair and should not be judged as a disadvantage @ronald.

I make the videos because my English is very bad and I can show my workflow better with the short videos.

Besides, video tutorials are my hobby :wink:

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thank you for defending @hello
I think that there is a misunderstanding. I often joke around with @hello It was definitely not a criticism, just a joke.
Once again thanks for your videos which are very useful.

When a Conflict Palette appears, the first nine items can also be launched with a number. For example, the first item in a Conflict Palette can be launched by pressing 1, the second by pressing 2, etc.

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A very useful tip. Thank you !

Take a look at KM_GridPalettes and see if that can help you in your use case scenario.

This is an application that allows you to create multiple palettes for different environments. The palette can be designed to have only the relevant macros for the current task at hand. At the time of design, the buttons on the palette can be assigned shortcuts so everything can be invoked from the keyboard.

The palette can be as large or as small as you like containing many or few macros. And you can switch between palettes, perhaps working most of the time with a small palette containing only the "usual" macros and then pull up a large palette containing a full set of macros for the work at hand.

KM_GridPalettes

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thank you. Unfortunately, I went that route with the Luna display dongle and an ipad, using the sys pref accessibility menu of the mac. After a lot of time, energy and some expenses, everything functioned perfectly and ... I never ended up using it for ergonomic reasons. It much easier to type a keystroke or click (trackpad tap) than to raise your arm and tap on an external device.
Thank you for taking the time to post a suggestion

It is a "virtual" palette that appears on your own screen just as the global macro palette does and you can access its "buttons" with the keyboard using shortcuts you have specified — you just activate it first and then type the shortcut. You can use Keyboard Maestro itself to activate KM_GridPalettes.

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My profuse apologies. I misunderstood, and will certainly try it ASAP.
Just for my education. How can one be sure that such as app is safe ? How did you decide that you could install it safely ?
Thanks again very much !

I wrote it so I know it is safe. :slightly_smiling_face:

But for others, it is a little more complicated because you have to trust me (or whoever wrote the app.)

On my website (www.bearboat.net) I have a page on the issue of Security and a page on the issue of Installation of apps downloaded from the web. The level of difficulty and the level of anxiety Apple engenders varies depending on your current macOS version.

Currently, I am not a “certified Apple Developer” because it would cost me $100 dollars a year and the apps I distribute are all free. I am working on an app now which will take a few months. When it is ready to go, I will bite the bullet and become certified which will make it easier for others to trust me.

Robert Livingston
30221 33rd Ave SW
Federal Way, WA 98023

At least you can knock on my door if you find I am untrustworthy. :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

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Hi @ronald - I actually tried out KM_GridPalettes, written by @rlivingston, without any ill-effects to me, my Mac or my family :smiley: Like you, I also tried Luna and quickly gave up on it because of the ergonomics... However, KM_GridPalettes runs on your Mac and is a palette of buttons as described. You may find it interesting although it didn't quite suit my requirements. YMMV.

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