MACRO: Palette Organizer v1.3

Unless this macro maybe doesn't work with MacOS Sanoma, I must be missing something in understanding.

I have read every word of this very long thread and I just don't understand how to get it going. If I try to invoke the macro using run or try I am told to select two or more macros. If I do that then how do I launch the macro? Okay, so I give the macro a hot key trigger. Now I go select several of my macros and invoke the trigger... viola, nothing happens. So I re-load KBM fresh. Same story.

The latest message in this thread is only a few days old... Am I crazy or just dumb? I did read the notes from Skitza way back, so I tried with the edit toggled both ways... nothing.

This is frustrating... I hope it's my system and not me... Or maybe I just don't know how to read directions... 1) select two or more macros; 2) Launch this macro. Seems pretty simple.

Must be my system:

2019 MacBook Pro
Sanoma 14.1
KBM 10.2

Somebody save me... Please...

Hmm. Is the macro active when you are tryin to launch it from the hotkey trigger? Are you selecting multiple macros in the same group (not a smart group)? Have you tried launching it by name or status menu? Just throwing some troubleshooting idea out there. Might also look at the KM log right after triggering to see if that gives any clues.

Yes, I have double and triple-checked to ensure that the macro and macro group are active. Yes, I am selecting several macros from the same group which is not a smart group. I haven't tried to launch by name or via status menu. I'll have to go read up a bit to learn how to do that. All I have really done is load the macro and follow the first two instructions. I did notice that after an hour or so there appeared a blank mostly white window pane that is titled "Palette Organizer". But it is just totally blank even though I have nine of my active macros selected.

Pardon me if you've already answered this, but have you tried rebooting your Mac?

OK, after reboot the macro worked fine. Interesting that I hadn't seen anything else not functioning. Before rebooting, I was using a VPN. Perhaps that had something to do with it.

Nice macro... Thanx!

Awesome - glad that solved the problem!

KM uses a "web server" process to display Custom HTML Prompts. Every once in a while, KM's "web server" process has some hickups. Fortunately, rebooting has always solved the problems. Knock on wood! :smile:

After rebooting, I noticed that some text manipulation macros that I had set to a common activation hotkey wouldn't open a conflict palette. Also, they wouldn't work individually. I ended up copying them to another macro group and they all started working. I did some checking by copying known good macros to the apparently bad macro group and they would stop working. When placed back to their original group they were fine. Before you ask, the bad macro group was active as were the macros. Needless to say, I emptied that bad group of good macros and deleted it. Aren't computers a real joy in life?

Regards,

Ken

Remember when they told us that computers would make things easier? Yeah, right.

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Hi Dan, long time, I trust all is well.

IF and only if you want to put time into this, I just came up with the same idea of losing the numbers per @appleianer 's request.

What has occurred is that I have a list of macros all nicely organized by number. I duplicated the list (of course numbers and all) and this version of the list isn't as fixed. It's a simple list of folders that I frequently move items to and so just moves the finder selection to the target folder.

I had used the number ordered version to push the most frequently used items to the top. With the new version I'm just going to let them self organize alphabetically. SO
to make a long story short (oops, too late :wink:) having the option to De-number the list to allow an A-Z sort by macro name in this case names of my folders, would be nice. As I add and delete folders to file in frequently, A-Z is better than frequent reorgs via Palette Organizer.

Bonus highly unlikely request. It'd be wicked good to be able to select a folder and trigger a macro that would add it to the list like you can in Default Folder to add a new Favorite to its listings but I do not think Keyboard Maestro is geared to generate macros outside of the editor.

They are full of wonder and a real joy when you expect them to be as glitchy as the folks who make and use them :innocent:.

Personally, I think life is simply one gigantic glitch. I just can't remember what it was going for before it glitched. This seems to get truer and truer with age.

I also think (thanks for asking :wink:) that getting it right or success is a matter of having the rate of correction exceed, at least long enough to cross the goal, the rate of error, recognizing that the rate of error is a constant. Another name for that constant is Entropy.

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Yeah, that's probably not gonna happen. I understand the use case, but it's not something I'm excited to do. :slight_smile:

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Love this macro so much. I think this has already been asked, but how can I change the default length of the separators (so they're shorter every time I use the organiser)

Thanks!

Right now you can't change it. They're suppose to be sized to fit the width of the widest macro name, but it doesn't work right.

It's something I might fix at some point in the future.

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I managed to change my default separator a long time ago. I couldn't remember how I did it, but I just checked my macro again and found I'd left the following comment for myself with instructions.

Note that the specified change should be made in the "Custom Floating HTML Prompt" action of the "Prompt the user to re-order and re-number, abort if canceled" group, as highlighted in the attached screenshot:

I haven't tried changing this again, but I assume it still works if you're using v1.3 :man_shrugging:

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Hi @DanThomas!

Know I am hopping on this train late, sorry for reviving the topic and probably asking a stupid question.

When trying to run the macro, I am getting this error.
2025.06.03 -

I have read your previous reply to same problem and noticed that an action to activate KM is already before the action that is supposed to select Macros Column.
Also, you mentioned it must be happening only when adding a separator, which is not true, it happens even if I do not add a separator.
If this information is of any value, Select Macro Column is greyed out when I have macro or multiple macros selected (stating the obvious), but is enabled when a macro group is selected.

I have no clue what to do from here to make this wonderful macro work and I was hoping for your help to do so.

Any help greatly appreciated,
Vedran

Look and see if that menu item is indeed not available.

It is indeed greyed out.

As I said, when I have either one macro or more of them selected, "Select Macros Column" is not available. It is only available when I am on a Macro Group item.
I have tried different macros, tried assigning different triggers to them looking for a possible glitch, but nothing worked.

Here are some screenshots to back up my case:

All Macros selected without a trigger assigned - Menu item disabled

2025.06.04 - Keyboard Maestro Editor

One Macro selected with assigned trigger - Menu item disabled

2025.06.04 - Keyboard Maestro Editor — Save All Overlays

Macro group selected - Menu item available

2025.06.04 - Keyboard Maestro Editor — DIP - Dynamic Input Prompt -

Hope some of this helps

EDIT
➤ Scratch that, it just worked. Take 103. I did not change anything, makes no sense. BUT it works so who cares for sense.
Thanks for bearing with me. :man_bowing:

Looking at the pictures, the selected macro(s) weren't blue, which means you clicked on something else. Just a guess.

Hi, I'm also experiencing the same issue as @Vex outlines - hopped on here to see if anyone had the same issue/there'd been a fix.

The macro renaming subroutine seems to activate with corresponding progress bar as usual, then the 'Select Macros Column' error pops up and the progress bar appears to hang. For me it seems to occur mainly when adding a separator, but not exclusively.

Relevant macros groups and macros are all active. I'm activating KM Palette Organizer via the Trigger Macro by Name text input - don't have a hotkey assigned to it.

I've repeated this several times in light of @DanThomas's last comment suggesting this may be a result of clicking away from the selection group. I've found that for me, 'Select Macros Column' is greyed out even if there's an actively selected 'blue' macro group (or pink, in my case).

Screengrab of Selected Macros with greyed-out 'Select Macros Column'

Worth saying I've personally only begun seeing this in earnest since updating to KM 11.0.4, if that makes any difference at all?

Try disabling "Failure Aborts Macro" (and potentially "Notify on Failure") in the "Select Macros Column" action (berow). See if it works that way.